chav_corner 7:38 Sun Jan 27
Central defenders
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So at the moment we have 2 senior players fit.One of these is Ogbana who is playing terribly.Balbuana is out for another 5 weeks.We have to get one in NOW.Really we need 2 cos if Diop gets injured we have none bar Ogbaba who is hopeless.
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ironsofcanada
7:23 Mon Jan 28
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I think that's the point. Tomkins didn't want to be a good back up and Pellegrini would certainly not want him at right back.
So pretending he is an option now is pretty silly.
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6:26 Mon Jan 28
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Re: Tomkins at the time leaving was the best thing for him to do. Since then he has got the game time he needed to push on (something he was not guaranteed at West Ham)
However I feel if he came back now (unlikely) he would be at least 3rd choice Centre Back and a decent back up or first choice at Right Back next Season if Zabaleta leaves.
Re: Rio Did we ever replace him ?
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ornchurch ammer
5:29 Mon Jan 28
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Maybe it does sound like Diop but at least Diop has a bit of pace and the ability to make a tackle to get him out of trouble.
Ogbonna has been at fault for more goals conceded that Diop this season in a lot fewer appearances.
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Russ of the BML
2:31 Mon Jan 28
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Still talking about Tomkins!! Jesus. May as well say that it the sales of Bilic, Reiper and Ferdinand are causing problems now.
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Eerie Descent
2:31 Mon Jan 28
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Im not bothered about history.
Ogbonna is fucking gash.
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ironsofcanada
2:25 Mon Jan 28
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penners28 2:06 Mon Jan 28
I thought the news earlier in the window about Medel was promising, he played at centre back for his country as well as being cover elsewhere.
They just wanted too much for someone of his age I guess. I would be worried it would probably the same on wages with Cahill.
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penners28
2:06 Mon Jan 28
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Get cahill in
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ironsofcanada
1:59 Mon Jan 28
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We rewrite history a bit.
Ogbonna was a starting centre back for balance of our best season in recent years.
With our only positive goal difference in recent years and with a goals against (51) that was on generally on par with the defensive Allardyce Premiership years and our best number in that area since.
That is the backdrop against which Tomkins wanted to start or leave. Bilic decided to let him leave and got decent money, for the time, for him.
Ogbonna is not playing as well now, for whatever reason, but to pretend like the decision was made today, is very disingenuous.
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solidbond
1:30 Mon Jan 28
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Ornchurch hammer 10:36.that sounds like a description of diop.
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Sven Roeder
11:26 Mon Jan 28
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Tomkins was the one who decided Ogbonna was a better option.
He wanted Bilic to guarantee him a start
If he’d stayed he would have replaced Ogbonna in time.
Though he’d be sitting out when Diop and Balbuena arrived.
Still say we should have kept Ginge for one more season as 4th choice until (and if) Josh Pask was ready.
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Eerie Descent
11:19 Mon Jan 28
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So Ogbonna is fucking dogshit because of Masuaku?
Anything else we can blame on him?
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Iron Duke
11:09 Mon Jan 28
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I'm not a big fan of Ogbonna, but he is definitely hampered from having to cover for Massuaku.
As a third or fourth choice centre back for a mid-table team, he is not terrible. However, how Bilic thought that he was a better option than Tomkins I'll never understand.
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ornchurch ammer
10:36 Mon Jan 28
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Ogbonna is poor and has always had a ticket in him.
Loses far too many headers for a centre back and his positional sense and passing are below average. Get shot of him.
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mallard
9:33 Mon Jan 28
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Will Winnie Reid ever return ?
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Feed Me Chicken
8:55 Mon Jan 28
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No, Ogbonna is useless.
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Jarza
8:24 Mon Jan 28
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Here we go...another Ogbonna bashing.
He's been playing well, with Cresswell on the left.
As soon as that useless prat Masuaka starts masquerading as a left back, everyone starts claiming that Ogbonna is useless.
It's not him! It's that he has double the work to do. As soon we f*
ck Arthur off to somewhere, anywhere please...so much the better
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Alfs
9:43 Sun Jan 27
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'Oxford didn't even make the squad yesterday so must be off'.
Or shit.
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13 Brentford Rd
9:35 Sun Jan 27
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Rice?
Oxford didn't even make the squad yesterday so must off.
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Eerie Descent
9:05 Sun Jan 27
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The very same.
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9:04 Sun Jan 27
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Eerie:
Not the same Centre Back that did a half decent job at Right Back for us a few seasons back ? If so would be a good shout
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Eerie Descent
9:01 Sun Jan 27
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There's an experienced English centre back at Palace who has been their star performer this season by a mile, we should go after him.
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